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Vintologi symbolism and traditions

PostPosted by datorissten » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:57 pm

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Vintologi is not about traditionalism or conserving the old christian/pagan traditions/values, it is about creating something new. I suggest the following events for yearly celebration:

Winter solstice: 20...22 december, the yule three is mandatory.
Summer solstice: 20...22 june
The retaliation at utøya: 22 july
birthdays

A females signals she is available by not covering her breasts or being completely naked. A female that is taken will have to properly cover her breasts unless she is breastfeeding.
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Being active and not just a spectator

PostPosted by datorissten » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:59 pm

Most people today have a boring life, they remain passive consuming huge amount of entertaiment. They might give the appearence of an interesting life on social media but in reality theif lifes is pathetic. Life should be enjoyed and not be about doing stuff you feel you must do all the time, stop watching TV.

Pornography
Do not just watch other people having awesome sex. You should experice hardcore sex yourself, not watching other people do it. Watching too much porn is probably bad for you http://yourbrainonporn.com/

There is currently a gynocentric movement against porn and masturbation and these people should not be taken too seriously, they often blains all their problem on pornography and masturbation. If your woman wont have the type of sex you see in porn, the problem is your female, not porn.

Sports
Did you know the human body is perfectly capable of running large distances without injuries even if the surface is hard. Running barefoot or with minimalistic flexible shoes is preferable, that will allow your body to handle the impacts on it's own and no cushion will be needed.

You can always invent new games and play, i have already invented a game somehow similar to snooker and several different ballgames. When i was training judo we sometimes played a fun ballgame where you had to do pushups/similar if you got hit with a ball for warming up and this was very fun.
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Soul purification

PostPosted by datorissten » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:04 pm

When your body dies you will lose most if not all memories and this is a good thing. When you live your soul becomes polluted by false beliefs and death is often the only cure. When you reincarnate your soul gets pure again and will be able to live a new amazing life.

Losing memories is a good thing
Children with past life memories generally become a lot happier when they forget these memories and can move on with their current life, generally children with past life memories start to forget them at the age 5 and do not remember anything as an adult.

If you do reach important conclusions in one life you can easily make them generally available and you might get a good use for that the upcoming lives. If you write a good book you might read it an upcoming life and liking it, not knowing you wrote it yourself. Most stuff you learn in your life is unfortinatily useless or more than useless, you might believe it is important information when it isn't.

Mental disorders such as Christianity, feminism, depression is all cured by death. It might be hard to accept for born cowards but death is the solution for all personal problems, if your current life is miserable dying is most likely a good thing. It is very difficult to help victims of severe brainwashing before they die and reincarnate, most people are not willing to accept that they have been fooled and will not accept help even if it is offered for free.
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The value of a human life

PostPosted by datorissten » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:49 pm

When valuing individual lives you have to look at the particular individual and the society as a whole. Death always leeds to reincarnation and a new life, the new life can be better or worse. In general human life is of little value, the current overestimation of the value of human life has lead to a very bad situation in our society.

What is important for each individual is the quality of their lives and their individual moral preferences, not how long the individual lives. Suicide is a perfectly rational solution if the personal problems is too big.

An particular human can be both beneficial and harmful towards other humans. We need enough people getting children to maintain the population and which makes sure most humans will reincarnate as humans and not something else. An individual with valuable genes will be able to improve the upcoming generations by spreading the genes and should be considered as valuable.

Mass murderers and humans that torture only inflict short suffrage, an individual that makes the gene pool worse will inflict suffering for many generation. The opposite can be said for improving the quality of the gene pool. An increase in intelligence will result in a better society for many upcoming generations.
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About high technology

PostPosted by datorissten » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:31 pm

Advanced technology and science has made it possible to understand the world in a way that previously was impossible, this religion could never have been created without high technology and science.

With technology it is easier for a few individuals to get a lot more power, technology makes armed resistance a lot more difficult and fewer people is needed to keep up the government. Technology such as television and radio has been used as brainwashing tools controlling the masses and imposing destructive changes to our society.

Advanced technology is a huge advantage in wars and we saw this in the Israel-Palestine conflict. With high technology you can kill your enemies in massive numbers with minimal casualties.

Internet is decentralized in theory and allows for people that are interested to find a lot of good information, unfortunately not many people have the will and intelligence to separate the facts from the fiction. Internet has changes the playing field but it remains to bee seen if internet will bring down the current system or if it only will make it worse. Internet allows us to be anonymous(especially with Tor and proper security habits) but it also allows for the government and companies to collect information about most people easily.

Ted kaczynski wrote an interesting manifesto about the downsides with technology and a lot of what he write is true. Technology and socialism currently makes is very easy to survive but it will be difficult in the future, the population of humans has been increased exponentially and eventually it needs to end. One important factor Kaczynski does not mention is the fact that the difficulty of getting a female has increased with the technological advancements, when females no longer need men they get more picky and a lot of unattractive men get weeded out of the gene pool.

For a long time the unfit masses has been able to reproduce without major difficulties, this is likely to change in the future as the society collapses.
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LBGTZNUIP

PostPosted by datorissten » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:59 am

Mental illnesses such as homosexuality and Gender dysphoria is common. You cannot be born into the wrong gender, your soul has no gender. If you was born into a different gender than your previous life you may have problems adapting to the new type of living.

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In most cases homosexuality is biological, it is due to an evolutionary compromise(evolution is far from perfect). A heterosexual male can still enjoy sex with another male, it is currently not socially acceptable and hence it is generally not common. If socially acceptable sex among heterosexual males can become common 1 and will result in females losing their ability to control males via their sexuality, less females power is a good thing but less competition for females is bad (for the gene pool).

Homosexuality was very common in ancient grece and rome, men fucked other men and paid less attention to females. The male sex drive is much stronger than the females sex drive and maybe the only non violent solution might be cultural homosexuality, i think i prefer war over that.

Now porn is an alternative to sex with females which is more safe and also free. The gynocentric nofap community used pseudoscience to rationalise the insanity(nofap/nofap) but my experience is that abstaining from PMO have mostly downsides.

Gay males often live a destructive lifestyle, their life expectancy is 8 to 20 years shorter, they often get infected with STD:s and have a very large number of sexual partners. It is currently complicated for homosexual males to start a family and at most one of them will be able to spread there genes. The spreading of diseases such as HIV end up hurting other humans that doesn't share their promiscuous lifestyle.
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Interplanetary reincarnation

PostPosted by datorissten » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:11 am

The number of lives you lives as a human is finite, eventually humans will to extinct or evolve beyond recognition. Before there were many humans most of us lived as other animals or organisms on other planets. 6.5% of the humans ever lived are alive today.
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The number of intelligent animals also varies with time, there was a time when no intelligent life existed on Earth and for vintologi to be correct interplanetary reincarnation is needed.

It is very difficult to know how life on other planets would be but the research on the island Madagascar suggest it would have similarities with life on Earth, in Madagascar an animal called fossa has evolved into having many similarities with cats despite belonging to the Eupleridae family, a family of carnivorans closely related to the mongoose family (Herpestidae).

An intelligent extraterrestrial organism will most likely have males and females like humans and other mammals, hermaphrodite life in a possibility but not likely, even less likely is some exotic solution such as 25% males, 50% hermaphrodites and 25% females. Evolution does not lead to the optimal results since each change needs to be benefit for survival and replication, the eyes human have is worse than the ones of many animals but evolution will not give us better eyes since we are stuck in a dead end, only genetic engineering can give us that.

The probability to reincarnate into a different planet is infinitesimal unless there is a shortage of brains to reincarnate into on Earth for a long period of time(thousands to billions of years). Cases where children have memories of living on another planet is very rare and impossible to verify, cases where children have memories of being animals is much more common but very difficult to verify.
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Natural and consciouss evolution

PostPosted by datorissten » Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:56 pm

Humans is now reaching a stage where the selection no longer is natural but instead conscious, it is up to each human to influence this conscious evolution and some will have a lot more influence than others.

Examples of unnatural selection is forced sterilisation, the welfare state, executions, selection of sperm or egg when the parents isn't biological. Technology also allows for genetic engineering and selecting the best outcome from several fertilized eggs to avoid genetic disease and disability such as Cystic fibrosis.

Genetic manipulation of humans is very controversial but there is very good reasons for making the population more intelligent by natural or unnatural selection. The goal should not be to make all perfect with iq 160 but to increase the genetic material of humans in general, we still want great genetic variation between individuals and races.

Currently it is easy to determine what is superior(beauty, intelligence, strength, health) but with time and conscious breeding it will become more and more about individual preferences. Penis size is a good example, currently the average is lower than the average preferense(both sexes) but with time the average is likely to increase until the average in preference matches the actual average.
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All dog breeds including the Caucasian Ovcharka and German Stepherd are obviously inferior to the Gray wolf on several key aspects such as intelligence. Human controlled breeding rarely give desirable results, especially when it is done by the state(eugenics), civilization in general has lead to a lot of degeneration among humans similar to what we see with dogs(less intelligence and aggression).

killgaz motron wrote:That is a simplistic view based on absolute control of breeding patterns within a closed system. the need for the intelligence of the wolf was not a prerequisite for our domestication of them, we did not need it, and the early portion of the formation of the dog was in a change of eating patterns by pack rejects that started following human settlements and surviving on our refuse.

diminishing their hunting intellect, by which we further exacerbated by obstructing the natural selection within their species by altering their breeding environment to meet our needs. the dumb dogs no longer died, dogs no longer died from stupid mistakes because they had humans to aid them, hunting intelligence was diminished because of food dependence upon humans etc etc. These were all unconscious decisions that led to the regression of the dogs cognitive capacity relative to the natural wolf.

Improving our own cognitive and health capacities through conscious and informed choices is absolutely, 100% factually able to work, it is supported by the knowledge of the process of evolutionary biology.
If you create an environment of ever increasing pressure to perform, and eliminate the non performers from the gene pool, the performers continue to improve performance.
pure basic absolute biological fact.

It wiuld be interesting to start over from wolfes again, maybe we will do better the next time.
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children with past life memories

PostPosted by datorissten » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:44 pm

There is some very interesting cases about children having past life memories, often these children talk about having a violent early death, they died early with unfinished business. I have not yet research these cases enough on my own to be confident that these are cases of reincarnation when the memory is preserved 1 2 3 4

Children with past life memories is often very similar with the person they remember being in the previous life, according to the research by Ian Stevenson the gender is changes in 10% of the cases. There is 3 explanations for the similarities, axiom 1 results in the first or last being true, i guess all 3 is true.
-you are able to with your will influence how you get reincarnated(parents, gender, etc) a lot of children do have memories of choosing their parents. There is even cases where a person before dying tells that he or she will reincarnate as a child and later it turns out the child do have memories of living as that person.
-you are less likely to remember your past life if your new body/genes is to different.
-regardless of your will reincarnation is less likely if the genetic distance is large(axiom 3).

I would like to see a case where the child remembers security details such as Swiss bank account, it is difficult to get reliable information about these famous cases. Even if the child remembers a past life it does not mean it was his/her past life and not just memory transfer.
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How we should view children

PostPosted by datorissten » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:45 am

Children do have smaller brains and less knowledge(in general) than adults, their souls is also a lot more pure, they have become less corrupted by society. One current view is that children needs to be looked after and controlled by their parents until they are 18 or even higher(in Sweden the state can decide to take care over you until you are 21).
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While adults generally have better cognitive abilities than children the difference is much smaller than what most adults believe, there is no shortage of kids that are a lot smarter than 99% of the adults. From the chart above we see that male children at the age 8 has larger brains than adult females, females in general should be viewed as brainpolluted children.

Currently we have a lot of age based rules, in the US and many other countries you can end up in jail for having sex with a 15 year old. In most countries you cant even take a license to drive a car of your own until you are 18, you are not even permitted to buy sex toys before you are 18. These high age limits is all about government control and creating criminals, in reality your ability for independent decision making is mostly about genetics and not age.

The lack of cognitive abilities in females(all ages) supports the idea of early patriarchal marriage, not a high legal age. Most females would benefit from early arranged marriage(from the age of sexual maturity), of course the females must end up liking the man before the marriage occurs.
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Dividing humans into groups

PostPosted by datorissten » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:46 am

Unfortunately the world will never be fair or work according to how we want it to work. It is pointless trying to distinguish between bad and good termites, you need to kill them all. There is always exceptions to useful rules, some young females is highly intelligent, not all lefties is failed or stupid, not all Christians turn the other cheek.

If 1% of a race wants to kill you the rational thing for you to do is to avoid all members of that race, the ones not following this principle is likely to win a Darwin award. In some cases extermination is perfectly rational, it might benefit you not only this life but upcoming lives too. According to vintologi exterminating your own kind might actually be a good thing based on your preferences, it will prevent you from reincarnation into your own race again.

If you want to shape the world according to your preferences it will be needed to divide the human population into groups, it is impossible to do this fairly but it is still needed in order for you to become god like. A good example is letting all females vote, this end up hurting all females even the ones voting 'correctly'. What matters in an election is how the voters vote as a whole, not the individual votes. One good solution is to require a certain score on a spatial intelligence(top 0.1%) in order for you to be permitted to vote(females tend to do worse on these tests).
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war morality

PostPosted by datorissten » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:24 pm

There is nothing inherently wrong with war. By war you can expand your borders or your population like the vikings did, strong men will be able to rape females and the strong men will be able to advance in the crushed society. Peaceful societies tend to be dysgenic while war-societies allows for the strong males to impregnate a lot of females. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants, no matter how clever constitution you craft you will eventually end up with harmful tyranny, the US is the best example of this.

If the population you crush has poor genes the rational thing to do is to kill them all, they will then reincarnate as humans with better genes and will hence benefit from being exterminated. If the population has good genes the rational thing to do is to rape the females and focusing on grapping power over them, a war of that nature is likely in the future due to increased political polarization.

Currently killing civilians is considered a war crime but this is of course nonsense, why should killing the civilian cowards be considered a bad thing, if anything killing brave soldiers is worse(they are likely to have better genes). It is important that soldiers get rewarded by their bravery by spreading their genes a lot if the survive, this cannot be fair individually(Breivik is unlikely to get any children) but it can be fair in general.
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vintologi churches

PostPosted by datorissten » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:10 pm

Each church will have it's own rituals and beliefs, with time some rituals and beliefs will be common for all churches and become a part of the vintologi religion. The church leader is called chief Vintologist or Vintologist0 and chooses his successors(Vintologist1, Vintologist2, Vintologist3, Vintologist4). The purpose of a Vintologist is to use his intelligence and knowledge to interpret vintologi according to his preferences, he will work as a window to the reality that isn't accessible for ordinary humans.

There is currently no shortage of empty christian churches that can be converted to vintologi churches, when a church is converted everything christian about it should be removed and burned. We also need good sex rooms in the case some church members wants to make love in the church.

Instead of fictional gods we look up to real people such as Charles Lindbergh, Anders Behring Breivik, William Luther Pierce, Gustav II Adolf. We can also have fictional characters such as Earl Turner(the turner diaries) and Oscar Yeager as role models. Common church activities can be reading good material, telling stories, answering questions, explaining the religion and related science, music.

Weddings
A vintologi church should offer wedding ceremonies, these weddings cant be legally binding with the current laws.
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Membership
The chief vintologist decides the membership criteria and membership alone, you cannot expect to just join any church. In order to become a member you must first be judged by 5 to 9 church members when you are naked, in addition i will demand that members id free from STD, understand vintologi, is an attractive Caucasian and don't mutilate their children. If you have poor genes you should not join a vintologi church, just kill yourself and take other losers with you.

Holy woman
A holy woman is selected for her intelligence and beauty to represent a vintologi church. A holy woman should have a lot of sex and isn't allowed to use any contraception. A holy woman that doesn't have a male partner should attend the church naked.
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Building vintologi communities

PostPosted by datorissten » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:30 pm

There is no shortage of successful religions communities. In order to have a successful community we need to have a good female/male ratio(preferable 2), in the conversion phase a good female/male ratio can be archive by only accepting males with large cocks(length>16cm, girth>13cm) as members but this will change when the church members has a lot of children. The males born into the religion will only be able to get 1 or in some cases 2 wives unless they start their own cult/community and this is a good thing.

Having a lot of single males is not healthy for the community and polygamy will result in a lot of single males unless there is a constant female over recruitment, the fundamentalist Mormons usually solves this by convincing males to do missionary work and expelling a lot of them from the cult.

Joining a Vintologi church will always be a privilege, it will be reserved to the best among us. The vintologi will be an honest community, no lies will be needed to keep it together. It will be very easy to leave a Vintologi community and very difficult to be accepted as a member.

The FLDS community lead by Warren Jeffs was able to take control over the local police and hopefully we will also be able to gain enough power to avoid harassment from the law enforcement. Nazi flags and other hostile symbolism should be avoided, we want to build a peaceful community and expand the religion by breeding, not going to war against the system and attracting failed individuals to the cult.
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Rape and forced marriage

PostPosted by datorissten » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:35 am

Assume we have two tribes, one with strong(genetically superior) males and another with weak(inferior) males. If the tribe with strong males kill the weak males in the other tribe and rape the women the following will happen
1. The weak men from the other tribe will die and reincarnate
2. the females will experience being raped and humiliated
3. the children born will be genetically better.
4. In the upcoming lives everyone will benefit by having better genes.

it is obvious 3 and 4 is good, but what about the female experience? reports has shown that a large part of the females orgasm during rape, some experience their first orgasm. Some females even admit to like being raped
The second is that I ORGASMED from being raped. That shocked me, shook me rigid, made me disgusted with myself and made me realise all my feminist ideals were wrong. Not simply wrong in fact, but stupid and, above all, MORALLY wrong.

He understood the darkness within my heart, the longing to relive my rape in a 'safe' environment, the desire to be beaten and humiliated, verbally insulted and made to understand my own utter worthlessness on every level.

I suppose I'm a masochist, craving pain, usage, rape, constant degradation.

According to the bible the punishment for rape should be marriage:

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Females generally want to exchange sex for resources, in order to provide for the children, if a man rapes a woman she might get good genes but the man will not have to provide any resources. If a females if married against her will she will(sex slave) the man will still provide for her.
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If you force a female to marry she will not be able to pick a man according to her preferences but due to the choices females do treating females like a property might actually be better for the gene pool 0 1

Proposed laws
-The husband is allowed to rape a female he is married to.
-you are not allowed to rape a females that is married to someone else.
-an unmarried female can be raped from the age of 18 when alone with a male in a private place.
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Living as a minority

PostPosted by datorissten » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:01 am

You cannot fully follow vintologi and also follow the laws and norms of your country. When we are small in numbers running and hiding will be the proper thing to do, defeating the military and maintaining control over the country will be very difficult unless at least 10% of the population support you.

When we are small in numbers we will be forced to blend in the society and not be perceived as a hostile group. When our numbers is small the proper thing to do is to reproduce in massive numbers, their is no point in sanctifying ourselves like Breivik did.

When our numbers grow we will be able to take more and more control over the countries we live in and make the conditions for vintologi better. Examples of political goals is lowered age of concent, better marriage laws(polygamous), abolish the system of child support, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, eugenics instead of dysgenics.

Just being armed with legal weapons is unlikely to be enough to fight tyranny, we have look at illegal weapons such as mortars, car bombs, machine guns and even weapons of mass destruction. Other useful tools is tor browser and anonymous cryptocurrencies(paid assassinations).

We do not want to be to accepted, if vintologi is generally disliked only the independent minded will be attracted to the religion. We want our members to accept vintologi despite being exposed to propaganda in school and remeasure by peers to conform to the norms. Building communities where all people like vintologi might actually be a bad thing since it will make it easier for our enemies to crush us.
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about immatrial property

PostPosted by datorissten » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:58 am

The main reason to publish material should be to make it available for future lives and to experience the joy of creating culture. Patents currently lasts 20 years and you will be required to publish all important details on how your invention works and this is sensible. Currently copyright lasts 70 years after all content creators is dead and this is insanity. The following reforms needs to be made
-no software patents.
-copyright should last at most 30 years, preferable 20 years.
-copyright laws should not cover closed source software.

Currently copyright laws inhibits creativity by making it illegal to do improved versions of 100 year old work, the only winners with the current laws is a few companies with a lot of old material. Complete new concepts is rarely invented, most ideas is mostly previous ideas merged or modified. Innovation is mostly about incremental improvements, competitively new concepts is rarely invented.

All texts i write is meant to be improved, if i write a book i will be happy if someone makes an improved version of it(better grammar and content). My children don't need to make money of the work i have done, they will be just fine without any money from me.

The development of AM2R was stopped by nintendo http://metroid2remake.blogspot.se/ furtonatily you can still grab version 1.1 for windows. Nintendo no longer makes any good metroid or starfox games(it has been over 9 years since the last) but that does not prevent them from stopping third party development. Super mario World lost levels series is much more fun than any mario game by nintendo, yoshis island kameks revenge is an awesome successor to the oridginal yoshis island developed by a third party(illegal rom hack).
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Free will over the future.

PostPosted by datorissten » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:44 am

The choices you make will affect the future and how your future lives are. It is more difficult to predict the results of your action in the far future than you just predict what will happen in the near future. A good example of this is pinball machines, it is difficult to know where the ball will end even if your aim is accurate. No matter how famous you are you will eventually end up being forgotten, history gets distorted by time.

Lets assume you are a female that prefer small cocks and only breed with males that have that both feature, this will result in a temporary decrease in average penis size but since most females have a different preference the average cock size will still converge to the average preference. If you kill all humans of the Caucasians race a new similar race would eventually evolve, it would take hundreds of thousands of years but it would eventually happen, you will just be forced to live thousands of generations as different races.

Mutations in genes often occur, most of these mutations are bad and without any form of selection(natural or conscious) the gene pool will deteriorate with time until we can no longer support the dysgenic civilisation.

Harsh environment → humans with bad genes get weeded out → technology advancements → dysgenic breeding → collapse
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Our environment

PostPosted by datorissten » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:23 am

As the human population increases species go extinct at an accelerating rate

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Is this really what we want? while mass extinctions might have long term benefits we still want to live in a good environment where we can observe a large variety of plants and animals.

Hunting insanity
Often hunting is justified using false science 1 hunting mostly strong males is of course insanity since it will weaken the species by eliminating good genes 2

There is only one animal that needs to be reduced in number and it is humans, especially the non-whites. Breivik did a good job of reducing the population of marxists to a less dangerous level.
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Why moral relativism is wrong

PostPosted by datorissten » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:34 pm

Moral relativism may be any of several philosophical positions concerned with the differences in moral judgments across different people and cultures. Descriptive moral relativism holds only that some people do in fact disagree about what is moral; meta-ethical moral relativism holds that in such disagreements, nobody is objectively right or wrong; and normative moral relativism holds that because nobody is right or wrong, we ought to tolerate the behaviour of others even when we disagree about the morality of it.

The claim that we should tolerate behaviour we disagree with is itself a moral statement which we can agree is disagree with. Might makes right and it is up to each individual to impose his will using his might, since no objective standard can exist it is up to each individual to set his own standard.

Moral systems(such as the acceptance of people that disagree) all have consequences which we can like or dislike. A moral system that demand that people with good genes should spread them a lot will result in you having there good genes in future lives. If other people approve of torture it will increase the likelihood of you getting tortured. If it is viewed as acceptable for a man to rape his wife it will likely result in you being raped when you reincarnate as a female, do you want that? (i do).
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